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Posted by Hayley - Hay Tor 
Lamb with closed eyes
30 April, 2008 12:07PM
Yes some of us are still lambing at this late stage of the year...

I have a very tiny (twin) lamb that was born a couple of days ago and her eyes are still closed.

Has anyone else ever come across this and if so are her eyes likely to open?

Thanks!
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
30 April, 2008 01:09PM
Is the lamb suckling?

If you put your finger inside the mouth is it cold?

Does the lamb look premature?
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
30 April, 2008 03:14PM
The lamb has warm mouth and a good strong suck and is doing her best to be mobile but is quite weak at the moment.

Her twin brother is twice her size and is already starting to skip around. They were due tomorrow so were not really early.
Although I think the ram lamb was ready to born I get the feeling the ewe lamb could have done with more time.

I don't know if she is seeing shadows through her eyelids or whether she responding to sound but she knows where her Mum is and makes a beeline for her.
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
30 April, 2008 05:13PM
She may be blind permanently.

I have had commercial lambs in the past born like this, if the Mum is very good they can manage although blind.
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
01 May, 2008 09:06AM
Good news, her eyes are now starting to open and she seems to be able to see fine. Phew!
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
01 May, 2008 02:02PM
Fantastic news!
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
02 May, 2008 04:47PM
I was a midwife in my past life and interestingly this may be a case of two single pregnancies. The ewe mother may have a bi-polar uterus (in other words a form of double horns to the uterus with one cervix) -and could have had a single pregnancy in each half which were a period of time apart. The ram lamb would have been term but the ewe might have been premature. The uterus which starts to contract because of a) a decrease in pregnancy supporting hormones from the after birth and b) thro the stretch receptors in the uterine walls caused by the larger lamb - could have set off the premature side. The stress of being born early on the little ewe lamb would have stimulated her lungs to produce a special substance that would keep her airways open on delivery. Nice to hear that lambs are like puppies then, their eyes can open after being born, although they do open inside (hence lambs born with corneal ulcers with entropian (inverted eyelids). Ususally they practise breathing & suckling movements in utero (before birth) - just like human babies and pee into the surrounding fluid (a good indicator of kidney function). Thats why the lambs are born such a yellow colour. If the lambs become distressed whilst being born the fluid can become faecal coloured and they will be slow to breath.
OK lesson over!!! Hope it was interesting.
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
02 May, 2008 06:39PM
Thankyou for that,not only was it interesting i learned alot too. going to print it for future reference. Val
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
02 May, 2008 06:59PM
Thanks for that tan-y-bryn I used to have a large commercial flock for many years and this happened once or twice. My vet did explain what it was - hence I asked if the lamb looked premature but I didn't know what it was called and all the other interesting bits!

Or that entropian was caused by eyes opening in the womb - did I understand that correctly?

Very interesting stuff.
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
02 May, 2008 08:28PM
Very interesting! I only had to assist one ewe, the first lamb was presented both front legs along the body with head down between them. Once i had straightened her out, the delivery was straightforward, but she was really brown. I guessed it was because she was distressed. Her brother slipped out unaided 4 minutes later white as driven snow!
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
04 May, 2008 06:32PM
I've always wondered why some of them are born yellow and now I know. What a fund of information you all are!
Re: Lamb with closed eyes
04 May, 2008 09:01PM
well glad you all found it interesting. The owner of the ewe must be careful now as the afterbirth may be problematic coming from such a mis-shapen uterus. Perhaps best not to breed with her again. Sounds about right with the presentation problems, there wouldn't haave been a nicely shaped canal for the lambs to present properly.
Going back to my past life again (not only was I a midwife but a neonatal intensive care sister looking after premature babies. Premature labour stresses babies and a frothy substance called surfactant is produced in the air sacs of the lungs. This acts like washing up liquid and increase the surface tension in the air sacs- holding them open when the first breath is taken. Without it the airsacs collapse and the lamb has to use more & more strength to open them again. If its anything like human babies, a whole lot of technical things happen on that first breath.
Blood circulating around the lambs body bypasses the lungs and crosses between the chambers of the heart via a valve between the two top parts of the heart ( if this doesn't close then this is the hole in the heart they talk of) On that first breath the pressures within the lungs increase and become higher than that on the returning side of the heart, shutting the valve or hole. So long as these pressures stay correct the hole stays shut. Another valve exists in the liver system and rising pressures in circulation shuts this too. Once the cord is broken on delivery the blood system between lamb and ewe is shut off for good and is totally dependant on that breath raising the blood pressures. If the breath is slow then circulation will begin to drop and eventually cease. And you have lost your lamb.
I'm very interested in genetics too so will start a thread on that if you are interested in all this.
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